tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-866031668205120292.post8617469256148677978..comments2016-06-13T23:56:40.813-07:00Comments on Heathens and Pagans for the Horses: Lost in translationLysippe Archerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00118560281657781470noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-866031668205120292.post-70782055041503302902013-08-09T13:28:15.323-07:002013-08-09T13:28:15.323-07:00I don't have a good resource... as far as I ha...I don't have a good resource... as far as I have been able to trace this back was to the Christians declaring that only Heathen's eat horses. Perhaps it goes back to Mary riding the donkey?Skullarixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08449084800116613541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-866031668205120292.post-37617756650405698612013-08-06T22:35:35.981-07:002013-08-06T22:35:35.981-07:00Well written and well researched! I noticed that (...Well written and well researched! I noticed that (one) of my Heathen friends had posted a picture on Facebook of a horse showing filet cuts. Made me sick. <br /><br />What started this "trend"? It isn't something I've encountered in the pagan circles I frequent (thankfully). But then again, most of them tend to be face to face where people can see the appalled look on my face if they even mention eating horse meat. <br /><br />Any way. Do you have any suggested reading for tracking down the tradition of eating horses within other cultures? For example, the historical or archaeological background to why the taboo exists in the UK but not in France? (I found this article in Behavior Behind Bones (Proceedings of the 9th ICAZ Conference, Durham 2002): 10. The economic and non-economic animal: Roman depositions and offerings by Roel C. G. M. Lauwerier, pp. 66-72. The author evaluates a large deposit of horse bones at Roman temple sites (from both sides of the border) in the Netherlands. This is an inadequate summary: from the bulk of the bones at oen of the sites, there was a large sacrifice of horses and ritual meal. This was unusual at the time. Other horse bones did not show signs of butchering for human consumption (in one case, a horse appears to have died of natural causes and then was butchered for the meat to be fed to the dogs). Ceffylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18193229738702127022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-866031668205120292.post-40536546907059172652013-08-06T22:16:08.923-07:002013-08-06T22:16:08.923-07:00Exactly! The sacrifice horse owners make is in the...Exactly! The sacrifice horse owners make is in the caring and providing for their horses. I joke with people that my horses are my kids, but when you think about it, that's the closest way I can state it to a non-horse person where they can understand. You do whatever you have to do. You are there, no matter how much it hurts, because no one else will be. It's your responsibility and honor to care for these sacred animals. <br /><br />Eating a horse is like cannibalism. Ceffylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18193229738702127022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-866031668205120292.post-29864107944765696642013-08-03T12:34:04.241-07:002013-08-03T12:34:04.241-07:00He he, makes me think about the page I had started...He he, makes me think about the page I had started for Fed/Fionn, where I listed the temp for riding that day each update? Yeah that was a minute ago, but really how many times have we as horse owners gone out in bad weather or early morning hours because a horse was sick or hurt? THAT IS the sacrifice!<br /><br />When it was, we are going to ramen so the horses are cared for, THAT's the sacrifice!<br /><br />Then these "dudes" want to come along and slaughter that animal in the most inhumane way possible! So they can eat what their ancestors did because in the lore it tells them that Heathens ate horses and the Christians didn't like it?! Heathens also kept horses and rode horses, most of the gods had a horse they rode... Let's skip all the riding and get to the eating?!! Can't seem to wrap my brain around this! Skullarixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08449084800116613541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-866031668205120292.post-34040917314075199822013-08-03T08:04:45.917-07:002013-08-03T08:04:45.917-07:00Excellent post, well researched and insightful. I ...Excellent post, well researched and insightful. I so agree that they are missing all the steps which would make this a sacrifice....the first being the very definition of "sacredness." It is all bravado, or as another friend has put it claiming to be "cool by being cruel." And the language that is used by several of them when we voice our opinion shows that..that we're "fluffy bunnies" (HA!) or influenced by Christianity. I guess fluffy bunnies are able to with stand -40 degree weather which I have been out in caring for sick horses...."badass" suburbanite Pagans probably couldn't last five minutes in. If you're not caring for the horse in a sacred manner no amount of eating her is going to make it a sacrifice. Saighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08330045789400336110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-866031668205120292.post-8795186364996956952013-08-03T07:43:30.956-07:002013-08-03T07:43:30.956-07:00I agree, with you about not seeing how sacred it i...I agree, with you about not seeing how sacred it is to eat an animal that was abused and then slaughtered in a heartless way. I also fail to see how meat from this poor animal would be an acceptable offering to a god either!Skullarixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08449084800116613541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-866031668205120292.post-42431910761803351652013-08-03T04:51:56.488-07:002013-08-03T04:51:56.488-07:00Great post Skull Arix! I am not a Heathen, so I ca...Great post Skull Arix! I am not a Heathen, so I can't comment specifically on that topic, however, you do raise some interesting points. I fail to see what is so traditional about eating the flesh of an animal shipped thousands of miles in a crammed truck, abused and then slaughtered in a heartless way, inhumane way. Traditional for our modern society that can somehow to rationalize industrialized farming and animal abuse on an unimaginable scale, but not traditional for cultures who were connected to these animals to the point of them being seen as "of the Gods". Laurelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04122549608166017767noreply@blogger.com